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Netiquette
Technical Issues
FAQs
Notice for
Parents of children under 13 years of age &
Children under 13 years of age

Electronic online-conferences are different from a regular list serv, because it is a focused group gathering together to discuss in depth on a specific selected topic. Generally this discussion is led by a guest expert and a selected conference coordinator handles the administration of the background activities necessary for an online conference to take place.  Typically there will be pre-conference reading to prepare the participants before the conference begins. It is important to understand that during a conference the topic is to be followed. If another topic develops from such discussions it is totally acceptable to take that off list or create another conference for the new topic.These conferences are of short duration and the focus is to explore deep into the announced topic. Please take time to consider what is most important

Netiquette
Be circumspect.
This is a public forum - world wide, so please bear in this in mind when you share personal information, particularly information about your child or another person. In particular you should understand that the emails may be linked in a digest format on the website to facilitate the current conference. Also these digests are archived on the webpage under each guest experts' pages and experience advises to be circumspect. Hopefully all members will conform to all rules of this list. Selected posts can be removed by the list manager.

Remember that there are teachers, psychologists, educational administrators and gifted students,( people from all walks of life) on this list and it is inappropriate to denigrate their professions or being gifted.

Challenge the idea only. Do not make your comments a personal challenge or make derogatory personal comments about individuals. This is called flaming and will lead to immediate expulsion from the list. Posting critical comments to a person off-list about a view that they expressed on-list threatening or harassment of the list management is also flaming and will lead to expulsion from the list. Sometimes it is hard to know how to interpret a post. If (perhaps after a night's sleep) you continue to feel personally compromised or offended by a post and don't feel able to respond on-list to it, then feel free to forward the message together with your reaction direct to the list managers. They are able to post general messages about netiquette, to wrap up a thread (gavelling) or, in extreme circumstances, to temporarily or permanently moderate or unsubscribe a poster.

Off-list posts
Some off list posts are suitable to remove general chatter/noise from the main list. Ask a person "on list" if you may contact them or invite personal responses about a subject that is off topic or too personal.

Anonymous Posts
You may also send your email to the List Manager where it can be posted anonymously to the list.

Guest Experts
NOTICE - Please do NOT contact the guest experts OFFLINE without first contacting them ONLINE to ask permission. Not following this rule distracts from the purpose of joining together and learning from each other. Our guest experts' time is very valuable and agree to be a guest expert knowing this rule is in place. Not following this rule will remove those who refuse to follow this rule from the list. If a guest expert invites a particlular list member to contact them offlist, please do not assume that this applies to you:)

Respect for the Purpose

The main purpose of this listserv is to discuss specific selected topics which will often be led by a specified guest expert in various online conferences. Interested members who may have various insights and expertise and are willing to share are invited to join. This is to be a safe harbor for all participants. Certainly there will be conferences which may be appear to be particularly organized for a specific professional group, yet the main purpose is to allow conversations to take place among all who are interested in the myriad issues pertaining to giftedness no matter their professional or non-professional role. It is asked that you respect this purpose and discuss only topics relevant to this purpose. Topics can be moved off list or continued on a general mailing list where it is more relevant. If you are in doubt about the relevance or appropriateness of your post, you can forward it to the webmistress and include your password to verify the authenticity.

Signature lines.
Members are welcome to include personal information about their affiliation and professional interests. Please know it is not suitable to include references as
part of your signature line to links which offer
subscriptions or other efforts to marketing endeavors regardless their nature.(This does apply to
when a member brings up a book that the guest expert
has written and the guest expert replies about the book(s) and where they can get a copy NOR does it apply to any books that may be suggested as reading for a conference.) Obviously long ascii signatures at the bottom of short message can look tedious in the digest mode. The above may be exempted for a guest expert if permission is given by the list owner.

Professionals On The List
We appreciate and encourage any support and useful contributions by those with relevant specialist expertise. Professionals are encouraged to make it clear to the list what they are, and are not, happy to respond to. If a professional feels that their well-defined boundaries are being continually overstepped, on-list or off-list, by a list member, they are welcome to forward such messages to the list managers for possible action. List members should take into account that list comments by such specialists do not represent professional advice and the list member is completely responsible for determining the relevance or otherwise to their or their children's specific situation.

If you are a Professional, please note the additional following helpful information:
As a future and/or past guest expert you are welcome to be a list member , but please be mindful that an observant mode may be most suitable. Because of your professional status and keen expertise you may become aware of a post which you would like to address. Learning is the utmost reason why these conferences are so valuable and professionals are key to the learning process. When such a need arises, please be willing to provide an offlist note to the conference coordinator/list manager and/or current guest expert indicating such in advance. This will help the flow of organizational issues which are voluminous on such a list. Also be mindful of the effect of an additonal professional, whose presence can illicit a myriad of questions that may alter the direction of conversation. As more and more professionals join the list, please understand that the list is growing and additional rules or courtesy hints may be addressed at anytime in the future.

Quoting
Everything on the list or web pages is copyrighted. You need permission from the list owner and/or authors before quoting any messages from an email in another place. The world is not as large as we may think and many messages that have been quoted out-of-context can embarrass the original poster. If the general points or experience only are being referred to, you need to make sure that the school or child or adult involved cannot be recognized or inferred.
The normal exemption for quoting "small" parts of published works for the purpose of study and review applies.

Use of Email Addresses
No collection and use of list email addresses for any purpose is allowed. Again, to avoid embarrassment about a particularly sensitive topic an email can be sent to the webmistress for forwarding anonymously to the list.

In addition, when you subscribe with your email address(es) you give permission to the use of that identity and requests to remove the email address or identity in archives, posts, caches with engine searches, or other private email accounts that you used to participate in any conference is freely given.If there is a request to remove any text there will be a flat rate paid no less than $100 per email request received. The owner of the list will only respond directly to the person of that email account and will not work with any entity claiming to represent for free or a fee for such requests to remove text, identity, etc.

If you choose to subscribe you agree not to sue or bring any legal action to the owner, moderators, guest experts, members of the list. Any and all attorney fees will be paid by the subscriber member.
Observers Are Okay
There are active contributors, those who contribute on particular topics, and those who "observe". All are welcome.

Attachments

Attachments are not barred, but please be mindful that
attachments are generally for the guest experts to send
information to list members during a conference. It may be wise to ask permission from the list owner to discuss what you want to send as an attachment in an effort to keep copyright issues in control.

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Technical Issues
Viruses

ALWAYS - use an up todate Virus scanning software while participating on this list and online conferences.
Virus warnings may be sent to
OGTOC-owner@yahoogroups.com, but never to the list. There are a lot of hoaxes. Genuine viruses and trojans can and have propagated through the private communications of list members List members should have a regularly updated virus scanner and more importantly backup their files. Consider others you may unwittingly infect if you pick up a virus while web surfing and it goes through your intray and address book.You do NOT need to open an email attachment to get a virus - some are self launching from the email preview. Macs are not immune.

Trim your replies
When replying to a message please be selective and snip any unnecessary part of the original message. Quote only enough of the original message so the others can follow the thread of your reply. This reduces traffic and download times generally and makes the digest function far easier to use.

Use of Subject Lines and Topic codes
Use accurate and descriptive subject lines and topic codes. Use the same subject line in your replies unless your reply deviates significantly from the original subject, in which case a new subject heading is appropriate e.g. IQ testing [was Excursions].

Topic codes (on Our-Gifted) Please try to use the following topic codes at the start of the subject header in your new OG messages.

Replies should retain the topic code.
ADMIN: for administration and discussion about how the list works or should work
ALL: for all list members (generally used only by a list manager)
EVNT: for alerts about or planning of useful events
HUM: for humor type messages
RES: for resources. Questions about or reviews of useful links/news items/policies
OT: for Off Topic posts ( please be ultra selective about using this.)
SUPP: for requests for support and help with specific situations
TECH: for technical notes about using email, archives etc
ALL: list update

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FAQs
Frequently Asked Questions

Only members can post emails.

All information presented on this list and through the Our Gifted web site are provided in good faith but without warranty or guarantee of correctness or authenticity and remain copyright ie. may not be reproduced, forwarded by email or otherwise distributed without prior written permission from the individual authors.

List members are encourgaed to invite guests to post to this special list on a topic of interest. These topics can be suggested on Our Gifted Web site as they arise through the friendships and contacts of Our Gifted list members with the wider Gifted Education community. This supports the need for a good academic discussion and greatly appreciated expert help.

E-conferences are very similar to the regular variety except there is much more guest/audience interaction in the form of question and response. This two way traffic flow is highly stimulating for both parties! It is hoped that some of our guests come back for a second helping even though they have not been paid to contribute their time. At the end of each conference written appreciations are invited to be posted online.

Email jargon
dd, dh, ds - dear or darling daughter, husband, son but none has ever seen dw (wife)
emoticon - visual clue to emailer's emotion
BTW - by the way
IMHO - in my humble opinion
FYI - for your information
OTOH -on the other hand
ROFL - rolling on the floor laughing
TBH - to be honest

Technobabble
ASCII art - those cute and clever pictures made from text used as signatures on emails
HTML - hypertext markup language
header - the stuff at the beginning of an email that tells you where and when the email originated from, the format it was sent in and whether it has any attachments. To see more than simply the sender's email address select show 'full' headers in your email program's options menu.
listserv - the computer in NEIU that hosts this list
Lyris - the name of the software program that outputs the email list
RTF - rich text format

Edubabble
ADHD - attention deficit hyperactivity disorder,
APD - auditory processing disorder
CAPD - central auditory processing disorder, now known and is the same as APD
PD - professional development
LD - learning disability
IQ - intelligence quotient
MG - moderately gifted
HG - highly gifted
EG - exceptionally gifted
PG - profoundly gifted
EXPRO - exceptionally and profoundly gifted
2E or 2X - twice exceptional, gifted and another exceptionality such as LD, physical disability, etc
GT/LD, Dual-exceptionality, Conundrum Children
AS - Aspergers - (Aspie) gifted but with social and other difficulties, etc, some believe it is part of autism or not. The IQ is above average, with early developmental mile- stones met- opposed to Autism with typical average or below average IQ and early developmental delays
Visual Spatial - gifted - whole system learners - not linear sequential learners - term coined by Linda Silverman PhD
WPPSI-III is the Wechsler Preschool and
Primary Scale of Intelligence (Third Ed.) and is for young children through age 6 (but at age 6, the WISC-IV is most likely given)
WISC-IV is the Wechsler Intelligence Scale for Children Fourth Edition (WISC-IV). is for age 6 through 16 (but at 16, the WAIS-III is most likely given)
WAIS-III (Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale-Third Ed.) is for age 16 and up
All Wechslers have timed and untimed portions.
SBLM or SBL-M is the Stanford-Binet Intelligence
Scale - Form L-M
SB5 is the Stanford-Binet Intelligene Scale: Fifth Edition and was published by Riverside Publishing as of 2003
Stanford-Binets are "largely untimed," but not completely.
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Emoticons (smilies)

:-) suggests that the writer is feeling benign and comes in a spirit of peace. This emoticon may save some unnecessary offence being taken by the reader.
OTOH it can also be used to accompany a direct confrontational statement thus disarming the reader who might legitimately object to the words' meaning, removing the reader's right to be offended by implying he left his sense of humor behind if he responds combatively to the meaning of the words- as in the case of its use at the end of this sentence. 8-)
So their use IMO opinion can be a mixed blessing, but since my intended meaning has been misinterpreted on numerous occasions by those people who only know me through email lists, I do my best to adopt them. I prefer to use words to precisely convey my meaning, not always successfully, but always profusely.

8-) means I wear glasses, so you'll possibly recognize me in the street now....

:-( could mean the author is mournful/unhappy, or conceivably this unfortunate person has forgotten her glasses but hopes her touch-typing is up to it.

I like 8-^, I never checked this one to see if others use it, I probably wrongly assume everyone knows I intend it as tongue in cheek.

;-) means don't take this too seriously. .............

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NOTICE

*Individuals younger than thirteen years of age*
Please have a parent send an email to the webmistress of Our Gifted giving permission for you to participate in posting online during the conference.

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